Category: Society & Culture

I think it's important for brothers and sisters to be aware of the statistics. For brothers, it should help them analyze their current circumstances and aspire towards realistic self improvement goals. For sisters, it should help them develop realistic standards.

Data pulled from Perplexity:

"Based on demographic calculations and distributions, out of approximately 4.5 million Muslims in the United States:

2,475,000 are men.

420,000 are aged between 25 and 35.

147,000 are unmarried.

20,600 earn over $100,000 annually.

12,400 are above 5'8".

7,440 are not obese.

When combining all these factors, the estimated number of unmarried, religious Muslim men aged 25-35 in the U.S., earning over $100k, above 5'8", and not obese is around 13,500.

From this group:

Approximately 2,025 would be considered highly attractive (rated 7+ out of 10), based on typical facial attractiveness distributions.

Of these, about 1,150 have abstained from premarital intercourse, based on reported abstinence rates (~57%).

Final Estimate:

There are approximately 1,150 highly attractive, unmarried, religious Muslim men aged 25-35 in the United States who earn over $100,000 annually, are taller than 5'8", not obese, and have not engaged in premarital intercourse.

This population represents an exceptionally small and selective segment within the overall U.S. Muslim demographic."

CONCLUSION:

If you adjust the height, age, facial attractiveness, physique, income, adjust for personality traits, hygiene habits, physical location, or ethnic origin – you will quickly drop to three digits.

If a sister is looking for a 6", 27 year old, 7/10, mildly athletic, $125k, confident, clean, Pakistani man, in the tristate area she may have less than 10 potential candidates. The likelihood of one of them being interested in her is probably less than 10%, meaning that it's possibly a zero chance.

Does this lead to sisters marrying brothers they're not genuinely attracted to when the pressure is high? Does it lead to reasonable expectations? Does mahr value make up for boxes not checked? Or should people just hold out indefinitely until their dream partner comes along?

Ali Shukri Amin

There's a lot of discussion as to why young men are frustrated or tapping out of society. It doesn't seem that the issue is as complex as it's made out to be.

The barrier to entry of basic life goals has been raised to astronomical levels in an unfair way. Whether it's in the economy or job market, modern Western society unfairly subsidizes the already entrenched interests through the suffering of the disadvantaged.

Thesis: in terms of marriage and dating, if there were equal augmentation of partnership – it would destroy society. Therefore, partnership shouldn't be augmented at all.

Most people can agree that the state has taken over some of the roles traditionally played by men for women that are unpartnered, through welfare, social security, equal employment, no fault divorce, and alimony laws. A heterosexual woman no longer needs a man to survive or even thrive, she can obtain a degree, a six-figure salary – and if she fails the social safety net will catch her.

If the government mandated an equivalent augmentation of women's functions it would destroy society. Without the male drive to pursue women, society would fall rapidly to a bare minimum level of functionality and reproduction would almost disappear.

The equivalent augmentation of government welfare and workplace empowerment for women is AI-robotic wives. Involuntarily celibate and unpartnered men (60+% of young men in the US) would go to a welfare office and apply for such a robot if they couldn't afford it. After processing their application, they would receive a new $30,000 model of a device that uses AI for voice and cognition (as a partner) and Boston Dynamics style robotics/doll materials for augmenting pleasure.

The reason the dating or marriage market is so lopsided is due to government subsidies to women, a free-market unregulated approach ro sex, and Marxist gender-warfare. If we remove subsidies to the rich in this marketplace (women) and regulate out extreme disparities – we remove the gender war.

However, continuing to subsidize the rich at the expense of the poor leads to an unfairly rigged marketplace. If society is going to do that, it follows that it should be done fairly. The problem is that this kind of equality would doom any society that does it.

This is why young men are frustrated – they aren't given a fair shot or a reasonable opportunity to accomplish things like getting a good job, purchasing a house, and finding a suitable spouse. Even if they exert enormous effort, if they aren't born with a commensurate amount of enormous privilege then it could still be out of reach. This is abnormal in organized society where most men had an opportunity to achieve these things.